SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:45 Tue Jan 17
Re: Soucek Watch
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It won't be a popular opinion, but Soucek has been sacrificed by Moyes on the altar of the sacred Declan.
Since they essentially switched roles Soucek has become complete shit and Rice has become a bit shit (at least, compared to what he was)
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nychammer
12:34 Tue Jan 17
Re: Soucek Watch
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Many players are one season wonders then just drop off a cliff. Can think of many over the years. If there is no sign he's going to rediscover that form of 3years ago then for one certainly do NOT persist in playing him week in and week out for starters, and if you cant work it out on the training ground then ship him out
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eusebiovic
12:10 Tue Jan 17
Re: Soucek Watch
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I don't actually think Soucek is as bad as he has suggested over the past 12 months.
At Slavia Prague he played as a deep anchorman in a 3 man midfield and by all accounts did very well indeed in a brutal champions league group where they came up against Barca, Dortmund and Inter Milan.
He is not the most naturally gifted footballer but I'm pretty sure it's about giving him a clearly defined task and role which he can stick to.
I think Moyes is a bit laissez faire at the small details...
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Eerie Descent
11:45 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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Short memories? You need to have a fantastic memory to remember the last time Soucek had a good game.
You're being sentimental, I don't give a fuck how good he was 3 years ago, his form for over a year now has been dreadful.
Fans don't just suddenly 'jump all over a player', when someone performs as badly as him for such a sustained period of time, you can't get away from it. And this is a West Ham football messageboard, you'll get honest opinions, if you want everyone to be a happy clappy cunt not criticising anyone, google kumb.
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Full Claret Jacket
10:36 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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People have short memories, he was a huge part of our success when he arrived and for the first season here. His athletic ability, timing of runs and aerial ability were top notch. Granted never a great passer and playmaker but got about the pitch closing down, intercepting and winning the ball.
I do think he has been getting worse for a good few months. Was unlucky not to score in some games early this season but his influence has dropped right off. He is under pressure, making mistakes and looks way off the level of fitness he was. Not sure what has happened physically but mentally he is struggling too.
Moyes seems intent on trying to play him out of his slump but all it is doing is making it worse. We have others who can play there and do the basics well enough. Maybe a change in formation can cover the gaps in ability.
It does piss me off a bit when fans jump all over a player who is playing badly and call them crap constantly. Like Antonio, Cresswell etc. ,he has done a decent job in the past but cant be picked to start matches on this form. He seems a decent bloke. Maybe his time here is up and he needs a fresh challenge, maybe he just needs an extended rest to sort himself out. Maybe if the team as a while starts showing some form then his form will also pick up. Absolute shitshow at the moment.
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Sir Alf
10:21 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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Charoo I do remember you’re skepticism and doubts with regards Soucek. Unfortunately too many “Score board fans” only see the goals he was heading in from corners and crosses but ignoring the pace and technical issues which teams now target.
I just I wished we knew someone that could the situation with Downes. Is he smoking a joint during training and generally taking it easy or has he let Moyes know he ain’t happy because Moyes, like with Benny, reluctant to give praise. When he did after the conference games he put him in an advanced midfield position out on the right ? WTF ?
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Charoo
9:40 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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Played 60 mins, so one touch every 5 mins.
I’ve been saying how shit he is for nearly 2 seasons, apparently most people were saying he was just tired last season and needed a rest.
Bullshit - he’s just fucking awful.
I don’t question his attitude as I don’t think he’s a bad lad just very short on ability and has no pace.
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cambsiron
8:40 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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Moyes is generally quite good at dropping people that aren't cutting it (sometimes takes him a while) e.g. Kehrer recently but the Soucek situation is beyond baffing. Basically most league one midfielders would offer us more than he does.
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andyd12345
8:07 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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We’re literally playing with 10 men.
I remember saying to my dad in the Brentford home game that Paqueta touched the ball more times in the first 35 seconds against Brentford than Souchek did in 90 minutes against Arsenal
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Sir Alf
8:02 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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I was annoyingly asking about this stat on Saturday as I heard it was only 9 or 10 touches of the ball. I apologise, I did him an injustice , he touched it 12 times ;-)
Fvck me it’s staggering ineptitude or blindness from Moyes and the coaching staff. I have been boring in about the whole bizarre , equally shocking treatment of Downes who has never started a Premiership game in his proper defensive midfield position.
There are no words to describe the insanity of our manager, coaches and owners.
Look out for a future book and film entitled “The madness of Coach David” in a year or two
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Eerie Descent
1:57 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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Some people on here agree with Moyes on that, Ted!
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ted fenton
1:45 Mon Jan 16
Re: Soucek Watch
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God not one tackle !!
Yet Moyes still plays him,
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